Q: Is it possible you reconsider the 'All future Small Plan updates' and maybe tie this to the 'Medium' plan future updates ?
The Advanced Role management in the Medium plan would 'fit' to the higher level feature/capabilities/functions offered in the AS Deal. Having Basic permissions with tied to this capabilities is out of sync.
You'd need/want the Advanced role management given the AS deal plan. Please consider revising this. Or at least upgrading this under the AS LTD plans.
All the future updates are based on the small plan, as of now, we are not considering a change. The application is already heavily discounted, since you pay only once and not on a monthly bases. You also have to pay to the cloud provider on the monthly basis not once in your lifetime ;)
Are the Advanced Role Management permissions already included in TIER 2+, or did I misunderstand your question?
I am also a purchaser of the tier 4 deal. I noticed your recently released the Audit API. As per the previous suggestion, I'd also appreciate if you map tier 4 Appsumo purchases to your medium plan and include the 1000 audit logs so that there is the chance to be able to better assess whether the rules work as intended.
Thanks for your consideration and kudos to the recent improvements of Decisionsrules.
Q: As per the last question, I thought you would have stayed on for a few more days, I was actually going to fully stack.
Q: Reading through the questions and answers here was a bit of a wild ride.
I have a few questions, but I was so exasperated at the lack of answers to real life use cases that I want to provide a few in case others find them useful. Each of these is not only possible with this deal, but is also a real life scenario from clients I develop for. - I have a wholesale client that uses price discrimination. Each of their ~10000 products has a series of price rules that determine the final selling price for their customers, depending on customer account type, season and the availability of stock levels that need to be compared to SLAs and projected sales to maintain customer contracts. The price rule itself is a formula that uses several variables, like cogs, markup tolerance, etc. While they're able to manage these with the solution I built for them, DecisionRules supports more functions out of the box, (and therefore more customized rules) than I built for them. - I have another client that sells product kits. Each kit has anywhere from 3 to 20 components across a few different base configurations. Not all component combinations are compatible with all configurations and each time new components are manufactured, I have to change the legacy code base, which is a pain. DecisionRules allows these kit configurations to be constructed accurately with the client able to add new components at will. - When building software, I don't always know what the business logic is up front. Sometimes clients are experimenting with new workflows and procedures that aren't codified yet. With DecisionRules, I can support this crazy development process by simply putting what I know of the logic in it instead of my code base and during demos, easily switch out the logic as necessary without having to update the code base right then and there. This also allows the client to collaborate with me more efficiently, which is likely to help them get to an actual decision about the logic quicker, as the demo is pretty much when the client does their best thinking.
Questions: 1. Is access to your BI API included in this deal? I bought Tier 4, in case it matters. If not, what do I have to do for access? Specifically, I'm looking for access to the audit endpoint. 2. There are conflicting answers below in earlier discussions, so what is the decision table row limit per table? What is the total row limit across the entire account? 3. What are the account upgrade options, when I need them? Will I forfeit my Tier 4 license to move to a customized monthly plan, or will the monthly plan stack on top of my Tier 4 license?
Thank you and good luck. This is a difficult market to compete in as I'm sure you know.
Thank you for your comments and for sharing information about your use/business case on how you use the DecisionRules. We hope it will help your company in the day-to-day business.
Questions: 1) The BI, via a connector to the database is currently available only on the on-premise or private managed cloud. Our team will release an Audit API on the SaaS which will be available also for the AppSumo clients.
2) It was my mistake, there can be 1k rows in each Decision Table in all tiers. If you need more please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io and we can figure out something for you.
3) The AppSumo deal is a limited offer. Some limits can be increased, but the additional charge would be made on a monthly basis. We recommend opting in for a monthly plan if you need a custom-tailored package.
Q: Hi Erik, question based on your previous comment:
"The Decision Trees will be the more advanced function, ...
and we will decide if we will add it to the AppSumo offer once the time comes. Stay tuned :)"
I noticed Decision Trees (beta) are now available. Can you please let us know if they will be part of the AppSumo offer, at least for the higher Tiers? I've been waiting to know before I purchase.
Yes, Decision Trees are out and they are part of the AppSumo deal as well. We wanted to make them available for all the users to try the new feature out. It will remain in all the packages also after the BETA version.
We hope you will like it and you will leave us a feedback :)
Are Decision Trees (and all upgrades to come) really included for good in the appsumo deal? I'm interested in licence tier 4 and was waiting for that information to buy or not. Is that confirmed or i misunderstood something in your answer?
Decision trees are the part of the deal, which are currently in the beta version. They will remain in the packages even after the BETA. All the features included in the regular SMALL package will be part of AppSumo.
CloudBean, I thought you have already bought the tool, there are 60 days money-back guarantee, so no reason to wait ;)
:)) 》CloudBean, I thought you have already bought the tool, there are 60 days 》money-back guarantee, so no reason to wait ;)
As On premise is really the match for my needs that exceed the cloud limitations, i was waiting for something significative to invest time and energy into the cloud as an answer to partial needs, decision trees are this waited answer.
I hope you have already tried the Decision Trees as a part of the deal.
Unfortunately, the on-premise is not a part of this deal. For on-premise please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io
Regards, Erik
Q: How do we estimate the number of rules and API calls?
From the use cases you named, could you please give us an example of how it consumes the quota?
For example, on pricing calculations - Website sends the order to you = 1 API call? You determine whether tax/member discount/promotion applies = 1 rule? You request tax calculation = 1 API call? You request member discount = 1 API call?
If you make 1 decision we count it as 1 API call. Decision Table, Scripting rule or Decision Tree - you trigger the rule it is 1 API call. If you have a Rule Flow with multiple rules in it and you trigger the Flow it is also 1 API call.
In 1 API call, you send the input and you get an output, basically, you can get everything using 1 API call you have described. It depends only on how your rules are constructed.
If you make 1 decision we count it as 1 API call. Decision Table, Scripting rule or Decision Tree - you trigger the rule it is 1 API call. If you have a Rule Flow with multiple rules in it and you trigger the Flow it is also 1 API call.
In 1 API call, you send the input and you get an output, basically, you can get everything using 1 API call you have described. It depends only on how your rules are constructed.
Could you please help to run through an actual example of the calculation for a pricing decision? eg., Step 1 - xxxx consumes 1 API call, Step 2, xxx consumes rule
Why I am asking? because I don't know how to choose which tier may be suitable.
Yes, I could have spared a day to setup and try before buying. But I could also just spend 5 min to determine if this is worth trying, if there is clear explanation to the terms in quota calculation.
I also hope that you realize this is where your marketing funnel may have caused frictions - it uses languages/terms that are not clear to buyers so buyers just give up.
I am not sure about those steps which you mentioned. If you trigger the rule, it consumes the API call.
If you trigger a REST API, making an API call (decision) is 1 API call. You can do also bulk by using an input of the arrays where you can embed multiple inputs at once, it is counted also as 1 API call, but note the solution time might be higher.
I hope it helps.
Regards, Erik
Q: #Advanced role management permissions#
OK please disregard my comment below about the role management.
I notice you have already included the advanced role permissions. Thanks!
That only leave the updates to the medium plan.....the high traffic app features/capabilities plan under AS is out of sync with the future small plan updates.
Yes, you can start to use the Decision Trees. The guide on how to create a tree can be found here: https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/tutorials/create-simple-decision-tree
The release notes are also in our DOCS: https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/release-notes
Yes, you can start to use the Decision Trees. The guide on how to create a tree can be found here: https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/tutorials/create-simple-decision-tree
The release notes are also in our DOCS: https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/release-notes
Thank you.
Regards, Erik
Q: How do we estimate the number of rules and API calls?
From the use cases you named, could you please give us an example of how it consumes the quota?
For example, on pricing calculations - Website sends the order to you = 1 API call? You determine whether tax/member discount/promotion applies = 1 rule? You request tax calculation = 1 API call? You request member discount = 1 API call?
Q: Hi Erik,
In one of your responses, you state:
"In every decision table, you can have 30k rows in all TIERS.
These plans relate to the SMALL plan, but with an extended limit."
When I logged into my account and clicked on 'Plans', it says "Up to 1.000 rows" for Decision tables. Can you please update the plan info in our accounts so the correct information is shown?
js libraries to utilize as helpers in the decision logic within DecisionRules? For example I want to install and require tulind ("npm install tulind") which contains functionality to run technical analysis on stocks and crypto. Using this functionality, I can then plugin into DeciaionRules to make my decisions. Thanks.
Currently, DecisionRules does not allow you to import external libraries into the rule engine. This feature will come in Q3 2022, when you will be able to use the external libraries, for example, NumPy, Pandas, Keras,.. from Python. For now, you can do the operations over the data before/after the decisions have been made, but this has to be handled on your side.
Thanks for your response. So, in order for me to make up my decision to purchase, can you verify that this feature to add NPM libraries into the DecisionRules SaaS will be available as part of this Appsumo deal?
Hello, its been a while. Do you have any updates to DecisionRules such as the ability to use external libraries? Also, can you answer the question for if you will allow Appsumo users to use the external libraries? Thanks.
We are currently working on other features (decision trees, reporting API,..). In Q3 we will work on the external API calls where also the possibility to use the libraries will be included. Can you share a case where this feature is needed on your side?
We can discuss your case and try to find an option for how we can do it without the external API calls (usually it is possible).
Did you manage to create a couple of rules and found out that it is really needed?
Thank you.
Regards, Erik
Q: Just really enjoyed the demo.
Thanks for taking the time.
Are the business rules limits per workspace or is that number for all workspaces combined?
Q: Hey,
I was interested in buying this deal but would like to know if you plan to develop, maintain and support this product over long term?
I checked your website and tried to read all documentation, it seem you haven't built many YouTube videos to show case any scenarios.
I would like to ask:
A. What is the difference between solver API (as offered in all plans) and Management API (as offered in tier 4 only)? This aspect is not clear to me.
B. It seems startup plan which you are offering to sumolings has only community support, so clarify upfront, if you will respond to any queries related to how to incorporate your rule engine in our online websites? I run a eCommerce clothing store with multiple categories and subcategories and would like to use this engine for it. I also run a small digital media company so need to know applicable use cases in such scenario.
If you upload some detailed videos explaining each function and how to use it along with some articles for people with basic API skills, it will help.
C. Do I need to spend money on Zapier as well to use your tool? Is your solver API similar to Zapier, Integromat, Pabbly and other API solutions in market which help to automate workflows. An example could be sending website form data to Google sheet.
D. It seems you offer on premise solution but it looks like it is for big companies and not for startups and bootstrap companies operating with staff of 1-25 people. Is this true, what can be done with on premise solution which can't be done with your SaaS platform? Are we small businesses at some kind of disadvantage here?
A. SOLVER API is used for decision-making process = to run the rule on the particular input and you get the output. Management API is used to maintain your rules without using the front end, e.g.: moving the rule from one environment to the other one, updating the rules,... It is used more for automatization.
B. Community support SLA is in all the plans, which means if you open a ticket on our support portal of any bug/issue our team solves it, but there is no guaranteed response and resolution time. If you want to ensure to have your issues fixed on time we recommend you to go for a different SLA plan which you can find at decisionrules.io. If you are interested only in the implementation support we also offer, please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io
C. Currently we do not have any integration with the mentioned tools. The reason is simple, all the rules are different (they are created by the end-users). However, we are having an internal discussion on this topic to create a universal Zapier integration, but it will not cover your example - sending the data to DecisionRules, because you will have a custom input/output which cannot be defined in a universal connector. On the other hand Zappier, Pabbly,.. are not mandatory to do API calls.
D. On-premise is not only for big companies. The deployment model very much depends on the architecture of the solution, the IT strategy, and data privacy,... The on-premise is not a part of the AppSumo deal. The solution whether it is an on-premise, SaaS, or private cloud is the same, the difference is only in the hosting. On-premise can be deployed on your servers, AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud,... which will be maintained by your company, but we can help you with the initial setup/ongoing support. NO, no matter if SME or enterprise, there are no differences. DecisionRules is a rule engine that can be used by any company of any size for an affordable price.
Into DecisionRules you can currently pass data only via REST API. We are internally discussing new ways such as Zapier, but we don't have an expected date.
You can use their API with Pabbly or Integromat. They have HTTP modules that you can configure to work off their API. It looks complex, but it’s not that bad. I had zero coding background, but learning JSON is pretty easy.
Can you please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io, we would like to discuss your use/business case.
Regards, Erik
Q: Can Decisionrules be used for evaluating a list of offers and recommending the best choices (e.
g. 3 recommended picks based on different criteria) by taking into account user-specific preferences?
And is it correct that we would submit a JSON with the offer data (i.e. all offers including those offer parameters that should be considered in the evaluation) as well as the user's preferences via JSON and Decisonrules would then return the top 3 picks as another JSON? Would this work reliably fast with 500 offers to be evaluated for each request?
Yes, this is the purpose of the DecisionRules to evaluate the inputs and to return as a result the matching conditions. You can set it up in the decision tables, scripting rules, or rule flow, the choice is only up to you and the complexity of the rule.
Exactly as you have described, you provide the input and you get the result in JSON format. The DecisionRules can evaluate 25k+ decisions/minute on 1 thread, the application is automatically autoscaling based on the load of the data, so no worries about the performance.
Q: What is the cost of this product?
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Q: Is it possible you reconsider the 'All future Small Plan updates' and maybe tie this to the 'Medium' plan future updates ?
The Advanced Role management in the Medium plan would 'fit' to the higher level feature/capabilities/functions offered in the AS Deal. Having Basic permissions with tied to this capabilities is out of sync.
You'd need/want the Advanced role management given the AS deal plan. Please consider revising this. Or at least upgrading this under the AS LTD plans.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hey,
All the future updates are based on the small plan, as of now, we are not considering a change. The application is already heavily discounted, since you pay only once and not on a monthly bases. You also have to pay to the cloud provider on the monthly basis not once in your lifetime ;)
Are the Advanced Role Management permissions already included in TIER 2+, or did I misunderstand your question?
Regards,
Erik
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Verified purchaser
What are you missing in this deal, that you would like to have the Medium package features?
Regards,
Erik
Verified purchaser
I am also a purchaser of the tier 4 deal. I noticed your recently released the Audit API. As per the previous suggestion, I'd also appreciate if you map tier 4 Appsumo purchases to your medium plan and include the 1000 audit logs so that there is the chance to be able to better assess whether the rules work as intended.
Thanks for your consideration and kudos to the recent improvements of Decisionsrules.
Q: As per the last question, I thought you would have stayed on for a few more days, I was actually going to fully stack.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Sumok,
Weare leaving the store for now, but you can come to our website decisionrules.io, where you can purchase the application at any point in time.
Do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Was hoping you'd stick around for a little while more.
Will you stay for another 3 days for appsumo plus members?
Are you increasing the price or actually leaving?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Sumok,
Weare leaving the store for now, but you can come to our website decisionrules.io, where you can purchase the application at any point in time.
Do not hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Reading through the questions and answers here was a bit of a wild ride.
I have a few questions, but I was so exasperated at the lack of answers to real life use cases that I want to provide a few in case others find them useful.
Each of these is not only possible with this deal, but is also a real life scenario from clients I develop for.
- I have a wholesale client that uses price discrimination. Each of their ~10000 products has a series of price rules that determine the final selling price for their customers, depending on customer account type, season and the availability of stock levels that need to be compared to SLAs and projected sales to maintain customer contracts. The price rule itself is a formula that uses several variables, like cogs, markup tolerance, etc. While they're able to manage these with the solution I built for them, DecisionRules supports more functions out of the box, (and therefore more customized rules) than I built for them.
- I have another client that sells product kits. Each kit has anywhere from 3 to 20 components across a few different base configurations. Not all component combinations are compatible with all configurations and each time new components are manufactured, I have to change the legacy code base, which is a pain. DecisionRules allows these kit configurations to be constructed accurately with the client able to add new components at will.
- When building software, I don't always know what the business logic is up front. Sometimes clients are experimenting with new workflows and procedures that aren't codified yet. With DecisionRules, I can support this crazy development process by simply putting what I know of the logic in it instead of my code base and during demos, easily switch out the logic as necessary without having to update the code base right then and there. This also allows the client to collaborate with me more efficiently, which is likely to help them get to an actual decision about the logic quicker, as the demo is pretty much when the client does their best thinking.
Questions:
1. Is access to your BI API included in this deal? I bought Tier 4, in case it matters. If not, what do I have to do for access? Specifically, I'm looking for access to the audit endpoint.
2. There are conflicting answers below in earlier discussions, so what is the decision table row limit per table? What is the total row limit across the entire account?
3. What are the account upgrade options, when I need them? Will I forfeit my Tier 4 license to move to a customized monthly plan, or will the monthly plan stack on top of my Tier 4 license?
Thank you and good luck. This is a difficult market to compete in as I'm sure you know.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello,
Thank you for your comments and for sharing information about your use/business case on how you use the DecisionRules. We hope it will help your company in the day-to-day business.
Questions:
1) The BI, via a connector to the database is currently available only on the on-premise or private managed cloud. Our team will release an Audit API on the SaaS which will be available also for the AppSumo clients.
2) It was my mistake, there can be 1k rows in each Decision Table in all tiers. If you need more please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io and we can figure out something for you.
3) The AppSumo deal is a limited offer. Some limits can be increased, but the additional charge would be made on a monthly basis. We recommend opting in for a monthly plan if you need a custom-tailored package.
I hope it helps.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Hi Erik, question based on your previous comment: "The Decision Trees will be the more advanced function, ...
and we will decide if we will add it to the AppSumo offer once the time comes. Stay tuned :)"
I noticed Decision Trees (beta) are now available. Can you please let us know if they will be part of the AppSumo offer, at least for the higher Tiers? I've been waiting to know before I purchase.
Thank you.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Little_Rocketman,
Yes, Decision Trees are out and they are part of the AppSumo deal as well. We wanted to make them available for all the users to try the new feature out. It will remain in all the packages also after the BETA version.
We hope you will like it and you will leave us a feedback :)
Regards,
Erik
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Hi Erik,
That's great to hear! Please request AppSumo to add this info under "Plans and Features" above to let everyone know.
Verified purchaser
Hello,
Are Decision Trees (and all upgrades to come) really included for good in the appsumo deal? I'm interested in licence tier 4 and was waiting for that information to buy or not.
Is that confirmed or i misunderstood something in your answer?
Regards
Verified purchaser
Hi again,
If really included, can it be written in the Plans and Features listing just like decision tables?
Regards
Verified purchaser
Hello,
Decision trees are the part of the deal, which are currently in the beta version. They will remain in the packages even after the BETA. All the features included in the regular SMALL package will be part of AppSumo.
CloudBean, I thought you have already bought the tool, there are 60 days money-back guarantee, so no reason to wait ;)
Regards,
Erik
Verified purchaser
:))
》CloudBean, I thought you have already bought the tool, there are 60 days
》money-back guarantee, so no reason to wait ;)
As On premise is really the match for my needs that exceed the cloud limitations, i was waiting for something significative to invest time and energy into the cloud as an answer to partial needs, decision trees are this waited answer.
Verified purchaser
Hey Cloud,
I hope you have already tried the Decision Trees as a part of the deal.
Unfortunately, the on-premise is not a part of this deal. For on-premise please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io
Regards,
Erik
Q: How do we estimate the number of rules and API calls?
From the use cases you named, could you please give us an example of how it consumes the quota?
For example, on pricing calculations -
Website sends the order to you = 1 API call?
You determine whether tax/member discount/promotion applies = 1 rule?
You request tax calculation = 1 API call?
You request member discount = 1 API call?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello aR,
Thank you for your question.
If you make 1 decision we count it as 1 API call.
Decision Table, Scripting rule or Decision Tree - you trigger the rule it is 1 API call.
If you have a Rule Flow with multiple rules in it and you trigger the Flow it is also 1 API call.
In 1 API call, you send the input and you get an output, basically, you can get everything using 1 API call you have described. It depends only on how your rules are constructed.
Regards,
Erik
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Verified purchaser
Hello aR,
Thank you for your question.
If you make 1 decision we count it as 1 API call.
Decision Table, Scripting rule or Decision Tree - you trigger the rule it is 1 API call.
If you have a Rule Flow with multiple rules in it and you trigger the Flow it is also 1 API call.
In 1 API call, you send the input and you get an output, basically, you can get everything using 1 API call you have described. It depends only on how your rules are constructed.
Regards,
Erik
Verified purchaser
Thanks but that still doesn't answer my question.
Could you please help to run through an actual example of the calculation for a pricing decision?
eg., Step 1 - xxxx consumes 1 API call, Step 2, xxx consumes rule
Why I am asking? because I don't know how to choose which tier may be suitable.
Yes, I could have spared a day to setup and try before buying.
But I could also just spend 5 min to determine if this is worth trying, if there is clear explanation to the terms in quota calculation.
I also hope that you realize this is where your marketing funnel may have caused frictions - it uses languages/terms that are not clear to buyers so buyers just give up.
Verified purchaser
Hey aR,
I am not sure about those steps which you mentioned. If you trigger the rule, it consumes the API call.
If you trigger a REST API, making an API call (decision) is 1 API call. You can do also bulk by using an input of the arrays where you can embed multiple inputs at once, it is counted also as 1 API call, but note the solution time might be higher.
I hope it helps.
Regards,
Erik
Q: #Advanced role management permissions# OK please disregard my comment below about the role management.
I notice you have already included the advanced role permissions. Thanks!
That only leave the updates to the medium plan.....the high traffic app features/capabilities plan under AS is out of sync with the future small plan updates.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: I have replied in the previous comment.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Hi Erik.
This link doesn't work: https://decisionrules.io/product-sheet
JFYI. I'm very curious about this. ;-) Thanks!
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello,
You can try this link to request the Product Sheet - https://www.decisionrules.io/?modal=product-sheet
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Is the Kafka API included in this deal?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: HEllo Tehnotronic,
The Kafka connector is not included in the deal.
Thank you.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Hello, Have you launched decision trees or any improvements from the time deal was launched.
Can I start using decision trees?
Can you please elaborate as what new or improvements has been done in last few months (from the time deal was launched)?
Thanks
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello,
Yes, you can start to use the Decision Trees.
The guide on how to create a tree can be found here:
https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/tutorials/create-simple-decision-tree
The release notes are also in our DOCS:
https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/release-notes
Thank you.
Regards,
Erik
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Verified purchaser
Hello,
Yes, you can start to use the Decision Trees.
The guide on how to create a tree can be found here:
https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/tutorials/create-simple-decision-tree
The release notes are also in our DOCS:
https://docs.decisionrules.io/doc/release-notes
Thank you.
Regards,
Erik
Q: How do we estimate the number of rules and API calls?
From the use cases you named, could you please give us an example of how it consumes the quota?
For example, on pricing calculations -
Website sends the order to you = 1 API call?
You determine whether tax/member discount/promotion applies = 1 rule?
You request tax calculation = 1 API call?
You request member discount = 1 API call?
Share DecisionRules
Q: Hi Erik, In one of your responses, you state: "In every decision table, you can have 30k rows in all TIERS.
These plans relate to the SMALL plan, but with an extended limit."
When I logged into my account and clicked on 'Plans', it says "Up to 1.000 rows" for Decision tables. Can you please update the plan info in our accounts so the correct information is shown?
Thank you
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Q: The Decision Trees look awesome!!!!
Fantastic job.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Dave,
Thank you for the positive feedback, we hope you will make the most out of them.
Regards,
Erik
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Q: Are we able to import Node.
js libraries to utilize as helpers in the decision logic within DecisionRules? For example I want to install and require tulind ("npm install tulind") which contains functionality to run technical analysis on stocks and crypto. Using this functionality, I can then plugin into DeciaionRules to make my decisions. Thanks.
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello DigitalVader,
Thank you for your interest in DecisionRules.
Currently, DecisionRules does not allow you to import external libraries into the rule engine. This feature will come in Q3 2022, when you will be able to use the external libraries, for example, NumPy, Pandas, Keras,.. from Python.
For now, you can do the operations over the data before/after the decisions have been made, but this has to be handled on your side.
Regards,
Erik
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Hello Erik,
Thanks for your response. So, in order for me to make up my decision to purchase, can you verify that this feature to add NPM libraries into the DecisionRules SaaS will be available as part of this Appsumo deal?
Thank you,
Joseph
Verified purchaser
Hi there! Will those that purchase this deal be able to use external libraries when the feature becomes available?
Verified purchaser
Hello,
This is too early to answer. As I mentioned Python will be available in Q3 2022.
Thank you for understanding.
Regards,
Erik
Hello, its been a while. Do you have any updates to DecisionRules such as the ability to use external libraries? Also, can you answer the question for if you will allow Appsumo users to use the external libraries? Thanks.
Verified purchaser
Hello DigitalVender,
We are currently working on other features (decision trees, reporting API,..). In Q3 we will work on the external API calls where also the possibility to use the libraries will be included. Can you share a case where this feature is needed on your side?
We can discuss your case and try to find an option for how we can do it without the external API calls (usually it is possible).
Did you manage to create a couple of rules and found out that it is really needed?
Thank you.
Regards,
Erik
Q: Just really enjoyed the demo.
Thanks for taking the time.
Are the business rules limits per workspace or is that number for all workspaces combined?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Mike,
we are happy to hear that you have enjoyed the demo.
The rules count is combined for all the spaces.
If you like our tool please leave a review at AppSumo or on G2.
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Erik
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Q: Hey, I was interested in buying this deal but would like to know if you plan to develop, maintain and support this product over long term?
I checked your website and tried to read all documentation, it seem you haven't built many YouTube videos to show case any scenarios.
I would like to ask:
A. What is the difference between solver API (as offered in all plans) and Management API (as offered in tier 4 only)? This aspect is not clear to me.
B. It seems startup plan which you are offering to sumolings has only community support, so clarify upfront, if you will respond to any queries related to how to incorporate your rule engine in our online websites? I run a eCommerce clothing store with multiple categories and subcategories and would like to use this engine for it. I also run a small digital media company so need to know applicable use cases in such scenario.
If you upload some detailed videos explaining each function and how to use it along with some articles for people with basic API skills, it will help.
C. Do I need to spend money on Zapier as well to use your tool? Is your solver API similar to Zapier, Integromat, Pabbly and other API solutions in market which help to automate workflows. An example could be sending website form data to Google sheet.
D. It seems you offer on premise solution but it looks like it is for big companies and not for startups and bootstrap companies operating with staff of 1-25 people. Is this true, what can be done with on premise solution which can't be done with your SaaS platform? Are we small businesses at some kind of disadvantage here?
- Suzanne
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Suzanne,
Thank you for reaching out.
A. SOLVER API is used for decision-making process = to run the rule on the particular input and you get the output. Management API is used to maintain your rules without using the front end, e.g.: moving the rule from one environment to the other one, updating the rules,... It is used more for automatization.
B. Community support SLA is in all the plans, which means if you open a ticket on our support portal of any bug/issue our team solves it, but there is no guaranteed response and resolution time. If you want to ensure to have your issues fixed on time we recommend you to go for a different SLA plan which you can find at decisionrules.io.
If you are interested only in the implementation support we also offer, please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io
C. Currently we do not have any integration with the mentioned tools. The reason is simple, all the rules are different (they are created by the end-users). However, we are having an internal discussion on this topic to create a universal Zapier integration, but it will not cover your example - sending the data to DecisionRules, because you will have a custom input/output which cannot be defined in a universal connector. On the other hand Zappier, Pabbly,.. are not mandatory to do API calls.
D. On-premise is not only for big companies. The deployment model very much depends on the architecture of the solution, the IT strategy, and data privacy,... The on-premise is not a part of the AppSumo deal. The solution whether it is an on-premise, SaaS, or private cloud is the same, the difference is only in the hosting. On-premise can be deployed on your servers, AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud,... which will be maintained by your company, but we can help you with the initial setup/ongoing support. NO, no matter if SME or enterprise, there are no differences. DecisionRules is a rule engine that can be used by any company of any size for an affordable price.
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Erik
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Q: Would it be possible in the future to pass data from a form for example formaloo, qwary, native forms, or ...
fluent forms, to have the rules or decisions triggered easily via Pabbly or Zapier?
Or will API calls be the only option
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello brice7,
Into DecisionRules you can currently pass data only via REST API.
We are internally discussing new ways such as Zapier, but we don't have an expected date.
Thank you.
Erik
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Verified purchaser
If you add automation tools, launch with Pabbly Connect - they integrate with most of the newer LTDs.
You can use their API with Pabbly or Integromat. They have HTTP modules that you can configure to work off their API. It looks complex, but it’s not that bad. I had zero coding background, but learning JSON is pretty easy.
Verified purchaser
Hello Coachmikemonte,
Thank you for your feedback.
Can you please contact us at sales@decisionrules.io, we would like to discuss your use/business case.
Regards,
Erik
Q: Can Decisionrules be used for evaluating a list of offers and recommending the best choices (e.
g. 3 recommended picks based on different criteria) by taking into account user-specific preferences?
And is it correct that we would submit a JSON with the offer data (i.e. all offers including those offer parameters that should be considered in the evaluation) as well as the user's preferences via JSON and Decisonrules would then return the top 3 picks as another JSON? Would this work reliably fast with 500 offers to be evaluated for each request?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Swup,
Yes, this is the purpose of the DecisionRules to evaluate the inputs and to return as a result the matching conditions. You can set it up in the decision tables, scripting rules, or rule flow, the choice is only up to you and the complexity of the rule.
Exactly as you have described, you provide the input and you get the result in JSON format. The DecisionRules can evaluate 25k+ decisions/minute on 1 thread, the application is automatically autoscaling based on the load of the data, so no worries about the performance.
There is nothing to lose by purchasing the deal.
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Erik
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Q: Still waiting to get a reply or is my question (from April 22) being ignored?
Erik_DecisionRules
May 14, 2024A: Hello Edwin,
Please see the answer below.
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Erik
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