Q: @Appsumo The Tiers here do not seem to match any tier on their pricing page
Hi Appsumo, The tiers for the lifetime deal does not seem to match any tier on their pricing page so I'm unsure how We're actually getting a good deal here.
Basic - $144/year Here - 1500/month | Basic - 3000/month Here - 12mins inference time | Basic - 30 mins inference time Here - 1 Controlnet | Basic - 4 Controlnets Here - 4 concurrent | Basic - 8 concurrent
Considering that you are getting less than half of the Basic tier with the License Tier 2, the only positive is having it for more than 1 year. However at the speed that Stable Diffusion is improving, customers will be left behind using SD1.5 and SDXL models whilst next year SD4 might be released and so on.
@Diffus - How would you say that you compare to other providers like RunDiffusion?
@Edward_Diffus? What is the cost of the monthly plan? Why not just have the API baked in as part of the higher plan (or introduce one that includes it)?
Hi there, the API plan right now is $100/month. LTD plan does not cover the cost of our expense to rent GPUs, therefore we only have limited options in terms of what we could offer in the plans.
A: Hi there, we will change our plan from time to time to consider our users' need and the cost of the infrastructure. We will sure to let you know once there is a different affordable plan. Thanks.
A: You could give it a try, but not many users that I know using it to generate floor plans. But it is possible base on this article https://civitai.com/models/198677/jjs-drawing-floor-plan
A: It's already supported, however, you need to subscribe to our plus or higher monthly plan to access it. We will gradually roll it out to more plans and tiers.
We will also add support to newer models while our users uploading them to our platform.
Q: Can your system recreate the same character in different situations?
I have a picture of a superhero I made using AI and my client loves it, however I've never been able to recreate the same character in different situations, evertime I feed AI the image and a prompt, the superhero changes completely and is unrecognizable. Can your software overcome this hurdle?
I wanted to try Tier 1. But the lack of SD3 and Regional Prompter is a deal-breaker for me. And I'm not willing to spend $200 at the moment as I'm a light user and just starting with SD.
Can you consider including SD3 and Regional Prompter on Tier 1? Maybe also include Face Swap?
You can impose a monthly usage limit on the above features for Tier 1, while it's unlimited for Tier 2.
That way, newbies and light users can also try all the features. And who knows - they might upgrade or subscribe to a monthly plan in the future! ;)
A: Unfortunately not, Tier 1 will only have basic features for people to have a taste of stable diffusion, since there would be a bit learning curve there to master it.
A: Flux is not included for both Tier 1 and Tier 2. Flux is supported on Diffus, but you need to subscribe to our Plus or higher monthly plan to access it. We will gradually roll it out to more plans and tiers.
I can see the limits on AppSumo, but frankly I'm tired of getting an LTD in beta stage, hoping that it will improve over time and supporting the development with feedback... only to be left in the dust as new features are introduced for premium plans. I understand that you've got to run a business, but if you can't afford lifetime deals, don't offer them. And if you can, limit them to get just enough early adopters on board.
As this deal stands I'm not biting. Plenty of other alternatives out there. I'd expect the basic plan at tier 1 and 2, with the plus plan sold at tier 3 and 4.
A: Hi there, it is quite expensive to rent GPUs to run those models, and we would like to stay in the business so all the users who depend on us can receive reliable services. I would like to offer better deals, as long as it could cover our cost. However, with LTD, it have limited options.
A: 1. consistence: yes you can, with the help of either a Lora model or a control net. Both are supported in the plan. 2. commerical purpose: We will give you all the rights to the generated images, but different locations have different laws. As long as you not violating any of those local laws, you are free to use the images for commercial purpose.
For anyone considering this deal: They are charging 200$ for lifetime access to the 1$ "teaser" plan with some better limits. From my experience with LTDs this means that in a year or two the deal will be useless because none of the uptodate AIs will be included.
In the description they write that SD3 is included and if you check the teaser plan it only includes SD 1.5, which was outdated long time ago. So SD3 is likely all you will get in your lifetime with this company.
The $199 plan is mapped to our Basic plan not Teaser plan, which has access to more features. The $59 plan is mapped to Teaser plan with some additional features.
My guess is, that they mapped out the lowest tier to us (in case they change their original plans) and added a new plan/s (with higher limits) to Appsumo only. It seems smart on their behalf (thinking ahead) and if you are understanding it well, you will get credits every month for a one time fee.
Yap. That's exactly that, consider how expensive the the GPUs are right now.
Q: Quesstion about storage
so after 10gb i cant only generate public images? is it possible to delete images to "get" more storage? in this case, is it posssible to download the image before.!? The deal seems to be amazing, except that till the storage is full its useless then :/
A: You can generate both public and private images; only private images will use up your storage. Both deleting and downloading images are supported. If you run out of storage, you can delete your private images to free up space.
AWESOME! Thanks for the fast response, but that means if i download a private picture and then delete it, i will still have the "rights" for it which i would have i would not delete it, right?
Yes, delete the private image will not change your rights about it.
Q: Images generated are private or public?
Hi. I read in your answers: "It can be challenging to list every feature not included in the LTD, given our extensive offerings. In summary, the Tier 1 license is an enhanced version of our Teaser plan with lifetime access, while Tier 2 is a simplified Basic plan with lifetime access, retaining all essential features."
Does this mean that in Tier 1 images are public and in Tier 2 are private? Can You please clarify?
A: 1. Generated images include public and private images. Public images can be seen by everyone, while private images can only be seen by the owner. Only private images count against the storage quota.
2. There are restrictions on generating NSFW images. Firstly, NSFW images cannot be made public and are only allowed to be private. Additionally, Tier 1 does not support generating NSFW images, while Tier 2 does.
3. Diffus WebUI supports using ControlNet to control the generated results. If you are not familiar with what ControlNet is, you can find a detailed introduction here: https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet. The more ControlNet units you have, the more you can control the content. The website supports up to 4 ControlNet units at the same time. Both Tier 1 and Tier 2 are limited to a maximum of 1 ControlNet unit, which is sufficient for most cases. Only a few very specialized AI-generated images require more ControlNet units.
A: Yes, we are partners with Civitai and also partners to many Civitai users. Most of the models on the Diffus website are uploaded by users. We provide the platform that allows users to freely upload their models. Our core service is ensuring that the various models uploaded by users can successfully generate images.
Q: @Appsumo The Tiers here do not seem to match any tier on their pricing page
Hi Appsumo, The tiers for the lifetime deal does not seem to match any tier on their pricing page so I'm unsure how We're actually getting a good deal here.
Basic - $144/year
Here - 1500/month | Basic - 3000/month
Here - 12mins inference time | Basic - 30 mins inference time
Here - 1 Controlnet | Basic - 4 Controlnets
Here - 4 concurrent | Basic - 8 concurrent
Considering that you are getting less than half of the Basic tier with the License Tier 2, the only positive is having it for more than 1 year. However at the speed that Stable Diffusion is improving, customers will be left behind using SD1.5 and SDXL models whilst next year SD4 might be released and so on.
@Diffus - How would you say that you compare to other providers like RunDiffusion?
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Q: Flux 1.1 + API
Do you plan on having flux 1.1 and API access?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 7, 2024A: Yes, we plan to release Flux 1.1 with API access soon. Once available, it will require an upgrade to our API monthly plan.
You can already use any SDXL, SD 1.5, or SD 2 models from our gallery with the API. We also support Adetailer and ControlNet through the API.
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Thank you for being honest about the flux 1.1 available to via API being a paid option
We just added Flux access to tier 2. Just in case you need it.
The flux api will not be available for Ltd holders right?
@Edward_Diffus? What is the cost of the monthly plan? Why not just have the API baked in as part of the higher plan (or introduce one that includes it)?
Hi there, the API plan right now is $100/month. LTD plan does not cover the cost of our expense to rent GPUs, therefore we only have limited options in terms of what we could offer in the plans.
flux api will not in the LTD plan.
Q: Are you considering increasing the plan for diffus?
Hello would like to have access to a better plan than the $1/mo plan
Thank you
Edward_Diffus
Nov 14, 2024A: Hi there, we will change our plan from time to time to consider our users' need and the cost of the infrastructure. We will sure to let you know once there is a different affordable plan. Thanks.
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Q: Consistent Characters?
1. At tier 2 are we able to create consistent characters that we could then generate images with different poses and backgrounds?
2. Do you have the ability to take a generated image, ask the system to zoom out and it would then fill in the new blank areas?
3. Do you have a roadmap for future development that we can see?
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Q: Consistent character
Is it possible to get the same person in different poses? That is, consistent character?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: Yap, with the help of a finetuned lora and controlnet, it is possible.
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Q: Floor plans
Does it make floor plans?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: You could give it a try, but not many users that I know using it to generate floor plans. But it is possible base on this article https://civitai.com/models/198677/jjs-drawing-floor-plan
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Q: Flux?
Do you now or have any plans in the future to implement Flux?
Edward_Diffus
Edited Oct 7, 2024A: It's already supported, however, you need to subscribe to our plus or higher monthly plan to access it. We will gradually roll it out to more plans and tiers.
We will also add support to newer models while our users uploading them to our platform.
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If Flex was included in tier 2 I would be interested but I haven't had much luck with diffusion models.
I agree! Please add Flux to Tier 2. That would attract more buyers.
We just added flux to tier 2, you could also try our monthly plan first to see whether you like it or not.
Yes, please Tier 2
Flux is added to Tier 2 today.
Q: Will you add 3rd Tier?
3rd Tier with Flux and API access?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: The Flux access has been added to Tier 2. We are not planning to have a 3rd Tier with API access.
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Q: Can your system recreate the same character in different situations?
I have a picture of a superhero I made using AI and my client loves it, however I've never been able to recreate the same character in different situations, evertime I feed AI the image and a prompt, the superhero changes completely and is unrecognizable. Can your software overcome this hurdle?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: You could give it a try, with the help of either a face swaper or controlnet, you should be able to control the look of the output character.
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Q: No SD3 & Regional Prompter on Tier 1?
I wanted to try Tier 1. But the lack of SD3 and Regional Prompter is a deal-breaker for me. And I'm not willing to spend $200 at the moment as I'm a light user and just starting with SD.
Can you consider including SD3 and Regional Prompter on Tier 1? Maybe also include Face Swap?
You can impose a monthly usage limit on the above features for Tier 1, while it's unlimited for Tier 2.
That way, newbies and light users can also try all the features. And who knows - they might upgrade or subscribe to a monthly plan in the future! ;)
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: Unfortunately not, Tier 1 will only have basic features for people to have a taste of stable diffusion, since there would be a bit learning curve there to master it.
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Q: Does this not include flux?
Would like to know if it includes flux
Linji_Diffus
Oct 8, 2024A: Flux is not included for both Tier 1 and Tier 2. Flux is supported on Diffus, but you need to subscribe to our Plus or higher monthly plan to access it. We will gradually roll it out to more plans and tiers.
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Hi there, we just added Flux to tier 2 plans. Now, any user who has tier two plan can use Flux.
Q: would this be good to create t shirts sticker images for print on demand with text
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: Yes. Try Flux or SD3, which has better text capabilities.
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Q: Teaser Plan only?
I can see the limits on AppSumo, but frankly I'm tired of getting an LTD in beta stage, hoping that it will improve over time and supporting the development with feedback... only to be left in the dust as new features are introduced for premium plans. I understand that you've got to run a business, but if you can't afford lifetime deals, don't offer them. And if you can, limit them to get just enough early adopters on board.
As this deal stands I'm not biting. Plenty of other alternatives out there. I'd expect the basic plan at tier 1 and 2, with the plus plan sold at tier 3 and 4.
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: Hi there, it is quite expensive to rent GPUs to run those models, and we would like to stay in the business so all the users who depend on us can receive reliable services. I would like to offer better deals, as long as it could cover our cost. However, with LTD, it have limited options.
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Agreed. If there are only two tiers I would expect Tier 1 to align with Basic and Tier 2 to align with Plus.
Not with LTD. We will offer Black Friday discount for monthly subscriptions if that is something you are interested.
Q: Can I generate consistence imagine and the generated imagines can be used for commerical purpose?
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: 1. consistence: yes you can, with the help of either a Lora model or a control net. Both are supported in the plan.
2. commerical purpose: We will give you all the rights to the generated images, but different locations have different laws. As long as you not violating any of those local laws, you are free to use the images for commercial purpose.
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Q: Teaser Plan
For anyone considering this deal: They are charging 200$ for lifetime access to the 1$ "teaser" plan with some better limits. From my experience with LTDs this means that in a year or two the deal will be useless because none of the uptodate AIs will be included.
In the description they write that SD3 is included and if you check the teaser plan it only includes SD 1.5, which was outdated long time ago. So SD3 is likely all you will get in your lifetime with this company.
Ben_Diffus
Oct 10, 2024A: You might consider subscribing to our Basic Plan. The Basic tier costs $12 per month, which means you can subscribe it for 18 months for $216.
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I rather subscribe for 16 years to your teaser plan for 199$. Great lifetime deal.
The $199 plan is mapped to our Basic plan not Teaser plan, which has access to more features. The $59 plan is mapped to Teaser plan with some additional features.
Q: So we're buying the free plan that is $1/ mo?
Teaser plan. incredible.
Edward_Diffus
Oct 15, 2024A: Hi there, we do not offer any free plan on our platform, since GPUs are really expensive to rent at the moment. The teaser plan is $1 per month.
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My guess is, that they mapped out the lowest tier to us (in case they change their original plans) and added a new plan/s (with higher limits) to Appsumo only. It seems smart on their behalf (thinking ahead) and if you are understanding it well, you will get credits every month for a one time fee.
Sounds win win to me.
Yap. That's exactly that, consider how expensive the the GPUs are right now.
Q: Quesstion about storage
so after 10gb i cant only generate public images? is it possible to delete images to "get" more storage? in this case, is it posssible to download the image before.!?
The deal seems to be amazing, except that till the storage is full its useless then :/
Linji_Diffus
Oct 8, 2024A: You can generate both public and private images; only private images will use up your storage. Both deleting and downloading images are supported. If you run out of storage, you can delete your private images to free up space.
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AWESOME! Thanks for the fast response, but that means if i download a private picture and then delete it, i will still have the "rights" for it which i would have i would not delete it, right?
Verified purchaser
What do you mean "rights"?
Use it for commercial purpose
Verified purchaser
Yes, delete the private image will not change your rights about it.
Q: Images generated are private or public?
Hi.
I read in your answers: "It can be challenging to list every feature not included in the LTD, given our extensive offerings. In summary, the Tier 1 license is an enhanced version of our Teaser plan with lifetime access, while Tier 2 is a simplified Basic plan with lifetime access, retaining all essential features."
Does this mean that in Tier 1 images are public and in Tier 2 are private?
Can You please clarify?
Thanks
Linji_Diffus
Oct 8, 2024A: Tier 1 and Tier 2 both has private storage, 2GB for Tier 1 and 10GB for Tier 2. Which means both Tier 1 and Tier 2 support private images.
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Q: Questions
1) Do generate images count against our storage quota?
2) Are there any content restrictions? If so, what are they?
3) Can you clarify what 1 ControlNet unit means? Does that mean, for example, we can only create 1 ai influencer?
Linji_Diffus
Edited Oct 7, 2024A: 1. Generated images include public and private images. Public images can be seen by everyone, while private images can only be seen by the owner. Only private images count against the storage quota.
2. There are restrictions on generating NSFW images. Firstly, NSFW images cannot be made public and are only allowed to be private. Additionally, Tier 1 does not support generating NSFW images, while Tier 2 does.
3. Diffus WebUI supports using ControlNet to control the generated results. If you are not familiar with what ControlNet is, you can find a detailed introduction here: https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet. The more ControlNet units you have, the more you can control the content. The website supports up to 4 ControlNet units at the same time. Both Tier 1 and Tier 2 are limited to a maximum of 1 ControlNet unit, which is sufficient for most cases. Only a few very specialized AI-generated images require more ControlNet units.
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Thanks, so for Tier 1, roughly how many private images = 2GB of storage?
Verified purchaser
Yes, Tier 1 has 2GB private storage
Yes, roughly, how many private images does that equate to?
Verified purchaser
A 512x512 image is about 300~500KB, 2GB can store about 5000 images in this size.
Q: Are you paying civitai and the model trainers and creators? Or you just took all the models you could
Linji_Diffus
Oct 8, 2024A: Yes, we are partners with Civitai and also partners to many Civitai users. Most of the models on the Diffus website are uploaded by users. We provide the platform that allows users to freely upload their models. Our core service is ensuring that the various models uploaded by users can successfully generate images.
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