Q: I use Page Optimizer Pro and Surfer SEO.
Could you tell me the differences between Market Muse and them?
Do we get to select competitor websites that are ranking so that keywords can be analyzed (which the two programs allow?)
Do you give the same pieces of info to optimize as the above info - e.g. how many H1s, tables.
Do you give so called LSI or NLP keywords?
Thanks. I'm very interested in the product as I'm paying monthly at Surfer which is expensive.
StephenJeske-MarketMuse
May 14, 2024A: Hey Sumo-ling thanks for the questions!
I apologize for all the information but I just want you to have the necessary knowledge to make the right decision.
1 - Topic modeling is key to helping you write like an expert. At MarketMuse we value data quality over quantity.
Here’s a post I wrote on how MarketMuse topic modelling works
https://blog.marketmuse.com/how-marketmuse-identifies-topics-that-make-a-page-more-comprehensive/
It’s long so here’s the TLDR. Our algorithmic platform is a combination of:
* Bayesian statistical methods (a collection of algorithms that measure, for example, co-occurrence). Our methods are generally patterned from Latent Dirichlet Allocation which was invented in 2003 and is substantially different from Latent Semantic Indexing from the ’80s and TF-IDF from the ’70s.

* Natural language processing that measures, for example, the relationships between concepts in the English language and their specificity. For example – “dog” can be a pet, is a type of animal, has legs, etc.

* Graph analysis that looks at content as a collection of edges and vertices, in one document and across a collection of documents

* Deep learning – neural networks that look to learn and to understand documents similarly to how the human brain processes them

My understanding of SurferSEO, based on what I’ve read is that it’s a TF-IDF tool. Here’s some information about the drawbacks to this approach.
https://blog.marketmuse.com/why-tf-idf-doesnt-solve-your-content-and-seo-problem-but-feels-like-it-does/
https://blog.marketmuse.com/tf-idf-for-seo-faqs/
https://blog.marketmuse.com/why-your-content-optimization-is-failing/
Regarding LSI keywords. They don’t exist (read that first post).
Regarding NLP keywords. They don’t exist either. Maybe you’re referring to the NLP add-on that Surfer-SEO has tacked on top of their product at an additional cost?
From what I’ve read that still does not materially impact their topic modeling which is based on TF-IDF.
Page Optimizer Pro relies on latent semantic analysis. Here are the flaws in that method: https://blog.marketmuse.com/latent-semantic-indexing-seo-content-optimization/
2 - We analyze thousands of pages of documents to create a robust topic model, not just the top 20 Google results.
PoP and SurferSEO don’t do this - when they present bad data, their solution is to provide you with the option to remove it. Our data science teams’ solution to bad data is to improve our processes so it doesn’t happen.
3 - The key to writing like an expert is understanding what topics to cover, what questions to answer, and what internal links, external links and anchor text to use. That’s what we provide.
4 - As stated elsewhere, LSI and NLP keywords don’t exist. The links above go into more detail.
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Thanks for your reply. So can I confirm I get all that through the optimize and research function and this is not only from the content brief? Thanks.
Yes!
Running the blog at MarketMuse, I find you can do a lot with monthly recurring queries. You can use them to:
* Optimize your content. Improve the depth and breadth of your article before you publish using our real-time editor that scores your content as you write (Optimize Application).
* Find new content to create (Research Application).
* Analyze the distribution of related topics on your page to ensure the right depth and comprehensiveness (Research Application).
* Compare your content against top-ranking pages to visualize gaps in a competitive heatmap (Compete Application).
* Discover how to differentiate your content from the competition (Compete Application).
* Ensure your content answers the important questions asked by your audience and avoid intent mismatch (Questions Application).
* Get linking recommendations (Connect Application).
Where would you use a credit? For Pillar Pages where these high-value pages require a content brief with more sophisticated topic models, as I explained before.