RankwellQ: I asked these questions on your support site two days ago and didnt get an answer.
Which isn't a great start.
So here they are again
I am testing your system on a site I own - which is a brilliant directories site
My questions are
1/ I have the script in place but it loads after the main site is rendered. The Meta Titels and Descriptions momentarily appear as the original coded ones then flash over to the ones that Nytro pushes over. (I tested this on another wordpress site I have and the same thing occurred there.) Is there a work around of this?
2/ When I view the site as Googlebot I see the coded data and not the injected Nytro data. The same is true when I do a site audit using (say) SEM Rush or SERanking. Neither one picks up on the overlaid values that your script injects.
So what will Google see?
3/ It appears that what you are injecting onto my site is simply a formula of keyword+h1+title. What if the pages have a terrible H1 though?
Is there a way to auto generate an AI title instead?
The instructions are bit hard to follow- sorry if they already cover these points
Lee_NytroSEO
May 14, 2024A: Hello Rankwell, apologies for the late support reply. Please note that client-side rendering technology is used to render pages directly in the browser with JavaScript. All logic, data fetching, templating, and routing are handled on the client instead of on the server. This method is highly reliable, mainstream and is used by all web browsers and search engines! As for the loading time, it might be due to where or how you placed the snippet. Our guidelines are to place it in the header, or before the header, and to exclude third-party apps from handling our script such as deferred or lazy loading. All of this is described in our documentation, and our support will be happy to assist you with these configurations. Regarding your comment on the "formula," these are fully configurable and can be adapted to any page content to create effective and good meta tags. We will be happy to assist you in configuring it; please book an onboarding session. Best regards, Lee
I would like answers to these questions as well.
The method Nytro uese to 'inject' the meta information does concern me.
Why can we not use a much safer method. Let this expert software do its magic and generate great tags but let us have a way to apply them to the website in a more traditional way.
Hello Info3827, Client-side rendering (CSR) is now the standard and mainstream technology used to render web pages directly in the browser. It is being done by default by browsers and search engines, regardless of whether Nytro's snippet is installed or not. What you refer to as "injecting" is mainstream common technology utilized by us that allows logic and data fetching to be handled on the client instead of on the server. Best regards, Lee
Thanks Lee. That makes sense and I have since found the "official" word from Google
"During the crawl, Google renders the page and runs any JavaScript it finds using a recent version of Chrome, similar to how your browser renders pages you visit. Rendering is important because websites often rely on JavaScript to bring content to the page, and without rendering Google might not see that content."
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/how-search-works
I have the free plan of Nytro which has only a few keywords in it, but enough to evaluate.
And in the time I was waiting for your answer I can see some of the meta titles set by Nytro have actually found their way to the SERPS and are being use by Google. And are viable in Search Console. Nytro even picking up on some rather badly optimised meta titles I had not gotten around to fixing yet.
So from that point of view it's a success.
Thankyou.
Meta descriptions is less successful though- but Google often uses their own snippet text anyway. We can only suggest what they use.
Now my last problem is that my various SEO audit softwares do not detect the changes in the metas made by Nytro
I presume they dont load the javascript but look at the coded metas instead.
This is annoying but not anything your software is at fault for.
The acid test is does Nytro help the rankings. And it will take more than a few days to know this.
So I will try out a higher tier plan now and see how it goes on a bigger scale.
And book in the call as I still find the instructions hard to follow / use.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It's great to hear that Google has recognized the Nytro generated meta tags, showing that our system is effective! 🤩🥳🍾 While SERP rankings can take some time to adjust, optimized and promoted Keywords by our system usually take a few weeks to move up. And yes, you have correctly understood that many audit tools don't render web page code at all, or not by default (its much more costly on resources), which explains why they don’t detect the optimized data. Please upgrade and book a call, we will help you refine the configuration to make it even more effective. We're here to help. Thanks, Lee
@Rankwell -- how did the acid test turn out?