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Feb 9, 2022

Q: Hi, The most common requirement with a Tab manager is that one wants to save a tab you have open to a folder that you already created.

Unless I am mistaken Tabsfolder doesn't allow you to do that? I find that ridiculous. It forces you to either create a new folder that you don't want) or save it to a single "default folder" creating a mess that you have to sort out later (not going to happen) or save all of the tabs you already have open!! (mostly useless and ludicrous)

I can only imagine that I am mistaken and that I can simply save a single tab to a pre-existing folder of my choosing? If so I apologise and explain because using this feels like I am in a Monty Python sketch! (I'm frustrated with it clearly)

Also what security is there for this, I need to know all those tabs won't get lost if Tabsfolder or my browser or PC crashes

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Hello Ohfavoo,

Thanks for your question.
To save tabs to specific folders check out the support article here:
https://support.tabsfolders.com/article/82-how-to-save-a-tab-or-window-to-a-specific-folder
You can do this with drag and drop as well as the Save dialog.

I am especially grateful you asked about data security as this is the most robust feature of TabsFolders where we have multiple levels of protection for your data:
1)Your data is backed up to our servers as soon as you create an account and validate your email address.
2)A Second level of protection is available with 3 codes which offers "Time Machine" backup up to 7 days back. See the description above "Stack 2 add. Codes (3 in total): 7 Days "TimeMachine" Backup".
3)The third level of protection "for all the do it yourselfers"; is the option to right click the Bookmarks folder in the TabsFolders window and click the "Export" menu item.

Hello Kamil,

Thanks for your response, sorry to say this tool does not work well - that's pretty important since it's meant to make life easier and be used a lot.
Here is why.
Your Method 1 - it's too many clicks and laborious, it's at least two steps, what if you have a long list of folders where you cannot see the folder where the shortcut got saved and the folder you now have to move it too? It's very awkward and time consuming to use.

Your Method 2 - the second method on the URL you have shared does not work from "3)In the Save dialog:" there is no search box to find the folder and even if there was its not an optimal experience because it requires the user to remember the folder name and do yet more clicks.

Surely the better approach is to mimic Gmail and tags? that way all bookmarks go in one place, handily in chronological order, then when saving use a popup or whatever show the user his tag structure and allow him to click the tags he want's to apply to the bookmark? ( Tags also overcomes the issues with folders which are significant and very old hat)

I think this tool could be great because it's got some good points but right now I think its a total fail and it drives me nuts using it.

I really think you and everyone who tries this will see it in 10 minutes, because anyone who needs this tool will have a massive list of booklinks and by implication is likely to need to use it a lot, that means minimal clicks, optimised UI and workflow is critical to whether it's useful or useless. It's concerning to me that you think this usable and I don't care how many users do use it because technically I do, except I never use it because of the problems mentioned above.
Proper implementation of Tags, a decent designer and thorough user testing with a commitment to real world usability will determine the outcome, hoping for the best please fix it!! I don't really want to start again with tab extend!

Thanks Ohfavoo for your honest feedback; glad we feel the same way as we are working on TabsFolders 2.0 to fix these issues (as mentioned above it's coming out in March / April of this year :) It has the fixes you mentioned using tags, etc. Check out the UI sketches here colours will be different:
Light:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/raljvzxvpwfvbiz/Double%20Pane%20-%20Screen%20Shot%202022-02-08%20at%2016.12.36%202.png?dl=0

Dark:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vi59m47hvvrbdxy/Dark%20Mode%20-%20Screen%20Shot%202022-02-09%20at%2012.00.58%202.png?dl=0

P.S. I think folders and tags together are the key as a folder structure gives you automatically 5 tags for example (work, project1, marketing, release 1.0, images) and the file / bookmark can also be tagged as images, etc.

Thanks Ohfavoo for your honest feedback; glad we feel the same way as we are working on TabsFolders 2.0 to fix these issues (as mentioned above it's coming out in March / April of this year :) It has the fixes you mentioned using tags, etc. Check out the UI sketches here colours will be different:
Light:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/raljvzxvpwfvbiz/Double%20Pane%20-%20Screen%20Shot%202022-02-08%20at%2016.12.36%202.png?dl=0

Dark:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vi59m47hvvrbdxy/Dark%20Mode%20-%20Screen%20Shot%202022-02-09%20at%2012.00.58%202.png?dl=0

Thanks Kamil,

That looks much more promising:
Search box - check
Tags - Check
Recent tags - check
Favourite tags -check
Multi -tags? - I can't see it, would be best if we can quickly tag a booklink with multiple links
Optional note for book mark - would be nice, auto date stamped please.
Clean UI- getting there
Workflow - to be confirmed hopeful you can get it right, needs to be fast, easy and functional.
.CSV export would be nice but I guess it might not fit your users model, so long as your back up system is 100% reliable its just a nice to have.

Please can you confirm existing users will get upgraded to the new version when it goes live?

Thanks

Thanks for the positive feedback about the future design :)

As per notes we weren't planning on a separate timestamp as you will probably add it at the time of saving in the new save dialog (will do wonders for workflow).
We will consider note date stamps for TF 2.1 and the other features you mentioned.
Multi Tags are in the design :)

As per your other message re: early supporters, existing users just need to purchase 1 TF 2.0 code ($19 until March 1) to get access to the new features.