We supported you when you were small. You promised that early supporters would continue to receive updates and access to improvements. That promise mattered.
So we were stunned and disappointed to discover that the new “Reasoning” models have been moved outside the scope of lifetime deal access. This change looks less like a technical necessity and more like a maneuver that takes away the very...
Founder Team
support6274
Edited Oct 20, 2025
A: Hi there, Eidgenosse!
Indeed, we appreciate the trust and support from our early users, and you are one of those. 🙏 You’ve played a real part in helping Logically.app grow, and that’s something we’ve never taken for granted. Over the past two years, we’ve continued to deliver updates, improvements, and new capabilities - all included in your lifetime access. You can see this ongoing...
First of all, I use Logically a lot. Yes it has some oddities but overal I was very happy with my purchase.
But things are slowly changing: - Your support website has moved to Reddit, from a clean dedicated website to a total mess and chaos. Support requests have to be moderated before being published....still waiting after almost a week. - I have to find out on Appsumo that LTD users are left...
Founder Team
support6274
Edited Oct 14, 2025
A: Hi AquaInfo 👋
Thank you so much for sharing your feedback - and for being such a long-time Logically.app user. We truly value your trust and the time you’ve taken to share your thoughts. 🙏
On the support front, our Reddit community is designed as a peer space for users to share ideas and tips - not to replace our official channels. For any account, billing, or technical questions, our email...
In the October 2025 update, Afforai (now logically.app) introduced a new “Reasoning” model group that includes Gemini Pro 2.5 (previously in the Advanced group), GPT‑5 (new), and Claude Opus 4 (new, if I recall correctly). However, AppSumo LTD users no longer have access to this group—even to Gemini Pro 2.5, which was previously available. Is this an oversight, or a policy change? It feels like...
Founder Team
support6274
Oct 7, 2025
A: Hi there, xingma 👋
Thanks for your question. You’re right that with the October 2025 update, we introduced a new Reasoning AI category that includes Gemini Pro 2.5, GPT-5, and Claude Opus 4. These are high-compute-cost models that go beyond the scope of the original AppSumo LTD plans, which currently include access to our Standard and Advanced model groups.
Because you are removing BYOK that existed before you are forcing LTD user to either not get the models they could get before or pay extra. So its a money grab without any question. With BYOK users could have just used those models by themselves
Hi, BYOK was used by less than 1% of users and required ongoing maintenance. As much as we wanted to keep it, we retired it to focus on higher-impact features that benefit everyone. LTD users still enjoy Standard and Advanced AI models at a heavily subsidized rate, considering how affordable the original AppSumo tiers were. We truly appreciate your support. Our AppSumo community means a lot to us.
It looks like you have taken to time to respond all your negatives reviews and frustrated users. I guess this is because you are planning to come back? How can anyone trust you anymore?
Founder Team
support6274
Sep 17, 2025
A: Hi there, rouk! 👋
Thanks for your question! We’ve made significant improvements to our support system and internal processes as we transitioned to Logically.app, ensuring that every Sumo-ling gets a much smoother experience with us. We’ve also been taking the time to respond to feedback - praise and challenges alike - because we believe that communicating with the community, making things...
Q: LOGICALLY (AFFORAI) REALLY OWN AN EXPLANATION 📢❗
@Logically You replied on September 11th "Even without BYOK and API, you still have access to our top-of-the-line AI models", when in fact as outlined by Alec Nguyen (https://cme.sh/alecngn), the only feature that allows Tier-1 users to have access to top-of-the-line AI models is BYOK !
So, either your statement is totally false and conceals a downgrade, or ARE YOU GOING TO GRANT TIER-1 USERS THE USE OF ADVANCED NATIVE AI MODELS ? You really own a clear explanation.
Founder Team
support6274
Sep 12, 2025
A: Hey there, Sumo-ling! 👋
Thank you for sharing your concerns. To clarify, Tier 1 users have access to the top-of-the-line native AI models included in their plan, even without BYOK or API. These native models are regularly maintained and updated to ensure strong performance for research, reasoning, and other tasks within Logically.app. 💪😊
We understand that BYOK and API previously allowed...
Are you implying that GPT-4o Mini and Claude 3.5 Haiku are top-of-the-line native AI models? When de facto, since the removal of BYOK, Tier 1 users no longer have the capability to use real advanced AI models via OpenRouter.
Apparently the pricing model is still not defined https://cme.sh/4CKBwN Although, I feel scammed, hopefully the founder finds (once and for all) the right cost strategy without continuously harming existing users. It was a promising idea that finished being a quite disappointing experience.
Hi - We understand your concern, and our goal isn’t to harm existing users, but to keep Logically.app sustainable in the long term. The updates aim to refine costs while keeping LTD benefits intact as much as possible. We know we’re in this together and truly appreciate your support. ❤️
Q: Do you want to betray your angels?
We supported you when you were small. You promised that early supporters would continue to receive updates and access to improvements. That promise mattered.
So we were stunned and disappointed to discover that the new “Reasoning” models have been moved outside the scope of lifetime deal access. This change looks less like a technical necessity and more like a maneuver that takes away the very...
support6274
Edited Oct 20, 2025A: Hi there, Eidgenosse!
Indeed, we appreciate the trust and support from our early users, and you are one of those. 🙏 You’ve played a real part in helping Logically.app grow, and that’s something we’ve never taken for granted. Over the past two years, we’ve continued to deliver updates, improvements, and new capabilities - all included in your lifetime access. You can see this ongoing...
Share Logically.app (formally Afforai)
Q: Reasoning models
First of all, I use Logically a lot. Yes it has some oddities but overal I was very happy with my purchase.
But things are slowly changing:
- Your support website has moved to Reddit, from a clean dedicated website to a total mess and chaos. Support requests have to be moderated before being published....still waiting after almost a week.
- I have to find out on Appsumo that LTD users are left...
support6274
Edited Oct 14, 2025A: Hi AquaInfo 👋
Thank you so much for sharing your feedback - and for being such a long-time Logically.app user. We truly value your trust and the time you’ve taken to share your thoughts. 🙏
On the support front, our Reddit community is designed as a peer space for users to share ideas and tips - not to replace our official channels. For any account, billing, or technical questions, our email...
Share Logically.app (formally Afforai)
Q: Can't use "Reasoning" model
In the October 2025 update, Afforai (now logically.app) introduced a new “Reasoning” model group that includes Gemini Pro 2.5 (previously in the Advanced group), GPT‑5 (new), and Claude Opus 4 (new, if I recall correctly). However, AppSumo LTD users no longer have access to this group—even to Gemini Pro 2.5, which was previously available. Is this an oversight, or a policy change? It feels like...
support6274
Oct 7, 2025A: Hi there, xingma 👋
Thanks for your question. You’re right that with the October 2025 update, we introduced a new Reasoning AI category that includes Gemini Pro 2.5, GPT-5, and Claude Opus 4. These are high-compute-cost models that go beyond the scope of the original AppSumo LTD plans, which currently include access to our Standard and Advanced model groups.
Well, this isn’t a downgrade or a...
Share Logically.app (formally Afforai)
Because you are removing BYOK that existed before you are forcing LTD user to either not get the models they could get before or pay extra. So its a money grab without any question. With BYOK users could have just used those models by themselves
Hi, BYOK was used by less than 1% of users and required ongoing maintenance. As much as we wanted to keep it, we retired it to focus on higher-impact features that benefit everyone. LTD users still enjoy Standard and Advanced AI models at a heavily subsidized rate, considering how affordable the original AppSumo tiers were. We truly appreciate your support. Our AppSumo community means a lot to us.
Q: Are you coming back to AppSumo?
It looks like you have taken to time to respond all your negatives reviews and frustrated users. I guess this is because you are planning to come back? How can anyone trust you anymore?
support6274
Sep 17, 2025A: Hi there, rouk! 👋
Thanks for your question! We’ve made significant improvements to our support system and internal processes as we transitioned to Logically.app, ensuring that every Sumo-ling gets a much smoother experience with us. We’ve also been taking the time to respond to feedback - praise and challenges alike - because we believe that communicating with the community, making things...
Share Logically.app (formally Afforai)
Q: LOGICALLY (AFFORAI) REALLY OWN AN EXPLANATION 📢❗
@Logically
You replied on September 11th "Even without BYOK and API, you still have access to our top-of-the-line AI models", when in fact as outlined by Alec Nguyen (https://cme.sh/alecngn), the only feature that allows Tier-1 users to have access to top-of-the-line AI models is BYOK !
So, either your statement is totally false and conceals a downgrade, or ARE YOU GOING TO GRANT TIER-1 USERS THE USE OF ADVANCED NATIVE AI MODELS ?
You really own a clear explanation.
support6274
Sep 12, 2025A: Hey there, Sumo-ling! 👋
Thank you for sharing your concerns. To clarify, Tier 1 users have access to the top-of-the-line native AI models included in their plan, even without BYOK or API. These native models are regularly maintained and updated to ensure strong performance for research, reasoning, and other tasks within Logically.app. 💪😊
We understand that BYOK and API previously allowed...
Share Logically.app (formally Afforai)
Are you implying that GPT-4o Mini and Claude 3.5 Haiku are top-of-the-line native AI models?
When de facto, since the removal of BYOK, Tier 1 users no longer have the capability to use real advanced AI models via OpenRouter.
Its clear and simple a money grab to get users to pay more for what they could have gotten with BYOK before it was purposefully retired
Apparently the pricing model is still not defined https://cme.sh/4CKBwN
Although, I feel scammed, hopefully the founder finds (once and for all) the right cost strategy without continuously harming existing users. It was a promising idea that finished being a quite disappointing experience.
Hi - We understand your concern, and our goal isn’t to harm existing users, but to keep Logically.app sustainable in the long term. The updates aim to refine costs while keeping LTD benefits intact as much as possible. We know we’re in this together and truly appreciate your support. ❤️