We have had a website built using Zion Builder, which is no longer loading on our site. We are unable to make any front end changes to the site.
We have tried lodging tickets to get support and have had no response.
How can we get a response so we can correct the issues, before I throw the whole website out and rebuild with a new builder that is actually supported and responsive?
We're sorry to hear about the trouble you experienced with Zion Builder. If you have already reached out to support@zionbuilder.helpscoutapp.comand there is no reply from them, please reach out to support@appsumo.com and we'll be able to speak to this further - our Support team is always happy to assist! 🙂
HI Ron, Unfortunately I am just getting roadblocks from support. As I didn't purchase the Zion Builder through AppSumo they are unable to provide support. So as I am not getting responses from Zion Builder does anyone have any advice that I can follow please?
Q: The TOS page is confusing.
It says: "You can NOT use Zion Builder Pro or Zion Builder LTD in WordPress Themes, in SaaS services or any commercial projects....You are allowed to use it for clients that you are building a custom website for or doing custom work on an existing website."
In one sentence, it says you can not use Zion Builder LTD in any commercial projects and in another it says you are allowed to use it for building or doing work on a client website. These seem to contradict each other, so which is it?
I already bought the Zion Builder LTD, but if I can't use it in any commercial projects, then it is of no use to me, in which case I will do a refund.
Note that I build custom websites for clients. I am not selling WordPress themes or templates. I am not a SaaS or hosting provider. (I sometimes do refer clients to those kinds of services and get an affiliate commission.)
It seems like what you really mean is that the license allows one to use it for commercial projects for clients as long as what is being sold is your own service (custom website work for the client) and not just reselling Zion Builder, either by itself or as a template. If that is the case, please clarify the confusing language.
Also, ObsessedEntrepreneur asked "Can we sell or flip the websites with the plugin installed?" but you did not directly answer this question. The TOS says "A client is not someone who...Has purchased a premade website from you" but it doesn't define what you mean by "premade". Does that just mean that you can't create a template website with Zion (or lots of copies of a template) and sell them? What if I create a unique, custom-made website using Zion Builder LTD, can I then sell that website?
Thanks, David
P.S. I posted this as a reply but hadn't gotten a reply, so I'm now posting it again as a new question. Looking forward to your reply.
1. You are not allowed to use the pro version bundled with themes and sell them on marketplaces like Envato. 2. You are not allowed to use the pro version in SaaS projects like Hosting services where you give a free license to your clients.
"What if I create a unique, custom-made website using Zion Builder LTD, can I then sell that website?" Yes you can as long as it doesn't brake rule 1. and you are not selling the license.
If you are selling only the exported files from Zion Builder then you can definitely sell them anywhere you want because it is your work.
Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought, but the wording on the TOS page was confusing. That sounds very reasonable and the LTD seems like an incredibly good deal!
Q: I noticed on the roadmap that updates were being made fairly frequently up until August when they seem to have slowed or stopped.
Am I missed reading the roadmap? Thanks in advance for any clarification as I am interested in purchasing it if the previous development pace were to continue.
A: Hi, I just answered this question beneath. We are working on a major UX update which you can test here https://zionbuilder.io/improving-ui-ux/ or on our discord server. So this is way the delay. Once the 3.0 will be released we will release normal updates once at 2 weeks as usual.
A: We usually release updates every 2 weeks but right now we are working on a major update and its normal to take longer. We do offer regular updates for our beta testers from our discord server.. you can test the 3.0 beta 3 version from here https://zionbuilder.io/improving-ui-ux/ or beta 4 version from our discord server.
We are continuously working on this project so you should not have any...
Q: Lack of Response to Tickets
We have had a website built using Zion Builder, which is no longer loading on our site. We are unable to make any front end changes to the site.
We have tried lodging tickets to get support and have had no response.
How can we get a response so we can correct the issues, before I throw the whole website out and rebuild with a new builder that is actually supported and responsive?
We'd appreciate any help!
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Hey there danni3, this is Ron from AppSumo!
We're sorry to hear about the trouble you experienced with Zion Builder. If you have already reached out to support@zionbuilder.helpscoutapp.comand there is no reply from them, please reach out to support@appsumo.com and we'll be able to speak to this further - our Support team is always happy to assist! 🙂
HI Ron, Unfortunately I am just getting roadblocks from support. As I didn't purchase the Zion Builder through AppSumo they are unable to provide support. So as I am not getting responses from Zion Builder does anyone have any advice that I can follow please?
Q: The TOS page is confusing.
It says:
"You can NOT use Zion Builder Pro or Zion Builder LTD in WordPress Themes, in SaaS services or any commercial projects....You are allowed to use it for clients that you are building a custom website for or doing custom work on an existing website."
In one sentence, it says you can not use Zion Builder LTD in any commercial projects and in another it says you are allowed to use it for building or doing work on a client website. These seem to contradict each other, so which is it?
I already bought the Zion Builder LTD, but if I can't use it in any commercial projects, then it is of no use to me, in which case I will do a refund.
Note that I build custom websites for clients. I am not selling WordPress themes or templates. I am not a SaaS or hosting provider. (I sometimes do refer clients to those kinds of services and get an affiliate commission.)
It seems like what you really mean is that the license allows one to use it for commercial projects for clients as long as what is being sold is your own service (custom website work for the client) and not just reselling Zion Builder, either by itself or as a template. If that is the case, please clarify the confusing language.
Also, ObsessedEntrepreneur asked "Can we sell or flip the websites with the plugin installed?" but you did not directly answer this question. The TOS says "A client is not someone who...Has purchased a premade website from you" but it doesn't define what you mean by "premade". Does that just mean that you can't create a template website with Zion (or lots of copies of a template) and sell them? What if I create a unique, custom-made website using Zion Builder LTD, can I then sell that website?
Thanks,
David
P.S. I posted this as a reply but hadn't gotten a reply, so I'm now posting it again as a new question. Looking forward to your reply.
Nicola_ZionBuilder
May 14, 2024A: There are 2 restrictions.
1. You are not allowed to use the pro version bundled with themes and sell them on marketplaces like Envato.
2. You are not allowed to use the pro version in SaaS projects like Hosting services where you give a free license to your clients.
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Neither sell the license on fiver for $5. Because we've seen this behavior also.
"What if I create a unique, custom-made website using Zion Builder LTD, can I then sell that website?" Yes you can as long as it doesn't brake rule 1. and you are not selling the license.
If you are selling only the exported files from Zion Builder then you can definitely sell them anywhere you want because it is your work.
let me rectify even more "and you are not selling the license on a marketplace"
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Thank you for the clarification. That's what I thought, but the wording on the TOS page was confusing. That sounds very reasonable and the LTD seems like an incredibly good deal!
Q: Any plan to integrate with Crocoblock?
www.Crocoblock.com
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Q: I noticed on the roadmap that updates were being made fairly frequently up until August when they seem to have slowed or stopped.
Am I missed reading the roadmap? Thanks in advance for any clarification as I am interested in purchasing it if the previous development pace were to continue.
Nicola_ZionBuilder
May 14, 2024A: Hi, I just answered this question beneath. We are working on a major UX update which you can test here https://zionbuilder.io/improving-ui-ux/ or on our discord server. So this is way the delay. Once the 3.0 will be released we will release normal updates once at 2 weeks as usual.
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Q: Is this product getting regular updates?
The last update in the Wordpress repository is 3 months ago
Nicola_ZionBuilder
May 14, 2024A: We usually release updates every 2 weeks but right now we are working on a major update and its normal to take longer. We do offer regular updates for our beta testers from our discord server.. you can test the 3.0 beta 3 version from here https://zionbuilder.io/improving-ui-ux/ or beta 4 version from our discord server.
We are continuously working on this project so you should not have any...
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