Q: As an ex-software developer, I find this app builder promising for creating advanced apps.
After watching Frontly training videos, I anticipate it will take longer than 2 weeks to build the app I envision. The AppSumo offer expires in 13 days. If I purchase Tier 1 now and later want to upgrade to Tier 5 (to add an OpenAI key) after the expiration, can I still get the one-time price for Tier 5?
I think your assessment is fair - although you can spin up pages quite quickly with Frontly, if you are looking to really learn the platform and advanced features, that process generally takes 2-3 weeks of practice and learning.
This AppSumo promotion is the last offer for LTDs for Frontly, but if you decide later that you'd like to upgrade, we can provide you with some kind of offer, although we will likely be offering only monthly subscriptions.
AppSumo offers a fairly friendly refund policy allowing users to buy the top tier and then refund within 60 days if they are unhappy, so that may be another viable path for you.
Q: If I purchase Tier 5, and then I get my Chatgpt 4 connected for a while.
How about dealing with future updates from OpenAI, let's say Chatgpt4.5, GPT5.0 etc. Are you going to enable Tier 5 users to get connected to future updates of ChatGPT versions?
A: Great question! Yes, for users who have added their own API Key I imagine we will always aim to enable the current modern version of the models as they are released. We've already been doing this over the past year as new updates have been available and although the future model changes are not something we can predict precisely we would always want to take advantage of the new benefits.
Q: Can we make app called "digital rooms" for business like previous appsumo deals "Heybase" and "Notch".
In these apps a Rich text editor was the main feature. Is is possible to add a Rich Text editor on the pages that can be used to write whatever by the client.
The RichText editor is currently available only in the app admin and not for end app users, but this is something we can definitely look into enabling!
1. Can we only build Apps based on the Templates of FRONTLY or can we build Custom Apps as well?
If yes: 2. Can someone who has no idea of Coding, use FRONTLY to build Custom Apps ? Or does it require knowledge of CSS, JavaScript, or any other Programming language etc. to build Custom Apps?
3. Can it be used to build a Custom App for a Home-Service business like a kind of Booking App where Customers can book/schedule services for their Home or Office from the App - for example an IT/Hardware Support service for Client site or a Home-Salon service, etc.
3. a) Does FRONTLY only handle the front-end part of the App or even the Backend of it as well? b) Does it need a Spreadsheet or Datasheet kind of Database at the back-end like Google Sheets, Excel, AiTable, etc. ?
1. Yes, you can built custom apps - the templates are just examples that you can install with one-click, but the primary use-case is for custom building apps
2. Yes - Frontly is an entirely no-code platform (no CSS or javascript involved at all)
3. Yes, you can build something like this. These are fairly common / reasonable use cases
4. Frontly uses Google Sheets as a back-end
I highly recommend watching the videos on our YouTube Channel to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/@frontlyapp
1. Can it create an app with multiple steps of logic? e.g. to follow a hierarchical flow chart? 2. I did not understand the app limits. For example if I buy tier 2, it is 10 apps per month? 10 apps per year? or 10 apps lifetime? And how are AI credits are counted? 3. If I have 20 AI tokens per month, does that mean I can create 20 apps and only 10 will be published on web? 4. Can I embed the published app in iframe or on custom domain?
Yes, our 'actions' system allows for a flow-chart style conditional triggering system where a certain path will run only if certain conditions are true.
The number of 'apps' is a total limit for your account. The AI tokens are used during the generation process, and then also can be used separately for running OpenAI requests in these end apps. The lower tier token limits are not suitable for using AI actively in your end apps, but can be used in our AI App generation setup flow.
You can add a custom domain to any app in Frontly. You may be able to embed your app in an Iframe, but the 'login' feature won't work so you'd need to set the permissions to public if it were to be in an iframe.
Thank you for your prompt response. I understood only partly. Didn't get apps and open AI explanations. Is it possible to take demo? What's best email to reach you?
We don't have the bandwidth to offer personalized demos unfortunately since we have thousands of new users signing up right now through AppSumo, but I highly recommend watching the videos on our YouTube channel for more understanding (https://www.youtube.com/@frontlyapp) as well as joining our Discord community to see what our users are talking about and to chat with the community (https://discord.gg/3ahy9XqJ)
Q: 2 weeks ago, you promised new templates, are they now ready?
We've decided to spend more time focusing on slightly more advanced AI app templates, so it's taking longer than usual. We did release a new 'Business Idea Generator' AI app template last week: https://app.frontly.ai/app_templates
We have 2 new AI app templates to be released this upcoming week. Check back to the https://app.frontly.ai/app_templates page by next Friday (March 22) and you should see at least 2 more :)
May I ask what they are? I see in discord and my own particular use case is around an LMS - is this one of the ones you are developing and if not will you consider doing so? For me and others this is a critical template.
Q: Hi,
Please find my use case:
1) I have a sheet with 10 rows each with data of 1 user with email if
2) When a ...
user logged in - I should display data of only that user in his session & he should be able to edit only his record.
In short - 1 row as 1 record - Enabling user permission only for that row/record
i.e. if we need something that has a slightly different template than the existent ones? i.e. if I need to make an app for schools to manage their students, can I just drag and drop and create the tabs I need without having to use a specific template from the existent ones? Thanks!
A: Hi Debbie! Yes, absolutely! The templates are simply examples - most users custom build their apps from scratch with their own spreadsheets, page names, etc.
I highly recommend you signup and give it a test to see if it's what you're looking for :)
A: Hi Rick, Frontly unfortunately is not designed for publishing apps on the play stores, just for web browser usage currently. Thanks for your interest.
I see in the documentation it says to contact the Frontly team if I need to implement dropdown selects from my google sheet within Frontly. Just want to confirm this is in fact doable.
There are actually a few ways to implement Select dropdowns in Frontly. If you're using it in a filter on your page, it will automatically populate from your sheet. If you set up our 'relational data' system to connect 2 related sheets together, the data will populate automatically as well.
If you need any assistance, please reach out to our support team in the in-app chat!
If i get frontly Tier5 and bring my own OpenAI API key (i have an subscription), do i then can use unlimited GPT-4 without any extra cost from frontly? If not, what extra costs arise?
When you add your own API Key, you will not receive any additional costs from Frontly, since the billing goes through your system.
Right now, users who purchase Tier 5 are limited to 5,000 AI requests per month with their own API key.
The reason for this limit is that AI requests still take up server resources and so we're aiming to continue raising the limits as we have more usage data in the coming months.
If you ever end up getting close to the AI limit, you can reach out to our team and we may be able to raise the limits for your account specifically.
A: We have a built-in OpenAi integration for sending requests and receiving and using their responses. I would recommend giving this a try to see if it meets your needs!
For instance I create an APP I want to use for multiple clients, can I make the "base/golden image" and then duplicate it as a new app connected to different sheets, if not are you planning on adding such a feature?
Q: Hello
So I am still trying to learn all of this stuff so be gentle...
lol
Can I build an internal app that would allow me to connect to a Google Colab and run processes? Can that be done through an automation flow with Make or Boost.Space? (example: Be able to write a prompt and it connects to GC for an AI process and shows the output)
If I build a portal for a client, they have access to it to use as needed. But if they need changes made to it (adding extra fields or renaming fields for example), that is done by the admin (me) correct?
Can I create a portal that is connected to a website (lets say a personal blog site on WordPress) and use the portal/app to create posts/blogs that is then pushed to the site without actually logging in and doing it in WP? And if so, could I have multiple sites connected to one portal?
I may be completely missing the mark with some of these questions, but I dont know what I dont know. lol :)
PS: I just saw answer #2 on this page (from April 2023) that suggests non-logged-in users might be able to use an app: https://appsumo.com/products/frontly/questions/hi-1-can-i-modify-what-appears-in-the-859380/#859559
"2. We are about to release an update tomorrow to allow an optional setting for public-facing pages that can load Google Sheets without requiring a user to login."
I was a little surprised to find out from support that the previous single code plan I purchased in 2022 is now known as "the freebie plan" so previous purchases don't really give any benefit over freebie users. Perhaps you might consider giving some kind of credit to previous AppSumo purchasers? Thanks very much!
I think there may be some misunderstanding. The entire 2022 campaign was a free offer, so there were actually no 'purchases' made at that time.
In the AppSumo dashboard, it's not totally obvious when you go back to review it that it was free, but I can assure you that our first campaign was in fact an appsumo 'freebie'.
This was also for the previous version of our platform. Since the plans don't really line up now that we have a new platform with new features, we're giving users a new 'freebie' plan on the new platform which is more than equivalent of what the free users of 2022 were getting.
That said, if you did actually make a purchase directly through us during that campaign to upgrade and you have a receipt or email confirmation, etc then we are more than happy to ensure you get a plan in the new platform that takes into account your early support and the amount you paid.
Ah, ok! Wow, I had completely forgotten that it was free. So sorry about that. I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished :) Thank you for taking the time to explain, and a retroactive thank you for your earlier generosity.
Q: This looks very interesting - thank you for coming to Appsumo.
Can I suggest two more templates that would be very useful for us beginners? 1. Book an appointment 2. LMS with Course sales public area, registration flow, member only area for students to follow a course and course admin area to make edits and see students progress and results. Even if you do not build these out as templates, (but please do consider doing so) can you say whether Frontly should be able to cover these two use cases?
A: Thanks Oliver, we are always looking to create new templates. I'll add these to our list.
We have a 'Calendar' block, which should fairly easily allow you to create appointments.
You can totally build an LMS system too - we have options for limiting user's access based on information stored in their account like a payment status, and we also have a Video block and an Iframe block which can be used to show media content.
If you want to learn more, I'd recommend joining our Discord community. We have 1,000 members and it's very active - users talk about their apps and are always happy to answer questions from other users looking for the best ways to build their ideas!
Q: As an ex-software developer, I find this app builder promising for creating advanced apps.
After watching Frontly training videos, I anticipate it will take longer than 2 weeks to build the app I envision. The AppSumo offer expires in 13 days. If I purchase Tier 1 now and later want to upgrade to Tier 5 (to add an OpenAI key) after the expiration, can I still get the one-time price for Tier 5?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi Michael,
I think your assessment is fair - although you can spin up pages quite quickly with Frontly, if you are looking to really learn the platform and advanced features, that process generally takes 2-3 weeks of practice and learning.
This AppSumo promotion is the last offer for LTDs for Frontly, but if you decide later that you'd like to upgrade, we can provide you with some kind of offer, although we will likely be offering only monthly subscriptions.
AppSumo offers a fairly friendly refund policy allowing users to buy the top tier and then refund within 60 days if they are unhappy, so that may be another viable path for you.
Thanks for your interest,
Patrick
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Q: If I purchase Tier 5, and then I get my Chatgpt 4 connected for a while.
How about dealing with future updates from OpenAI, let's say Chatgpt4.5, GPT5.0 etc. Are you going to enable Tier 5 users to get connected to future updates of ChatGPT versions?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Great question! Yes, for users who have added their own API Key I imagine we will always aim to enable the current modern version of the models as they are released. We've already been doing this over the past year as new updates have been available and although the future model changes are not something we can predict precisely we would always want to take advantage of the new benefits.
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Q: Hi, I want to make a dashboard where users can retrieve contact details of companies.
The contact data is currently stored in AITable, but can be stored in Google Sheets at any time. Can I realise such a project with Frontly?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Yes, this sounds like a very simple and achievable use-case for Frontly!
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Q: Can we make app called "digital rooms" for business like previous appsumo deals "Heybase" and "Notch".
In these apps a Rich text editor was the main feature. Is is possible to add a Rich Text editor on the pages that can be used to write whatever by the client.
Thanks and waiting ...
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi there!
The RichText editor is currently available only in the app admin and not for end app users, but this is something we can definitely look into enabling!
Thank you for your request,
Patrick
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Q: Hi!
1. Can we only build Apps based on the Templates of FRONTLY or can we build Custom Apps as well?
If yes:
2. Can someone who has no idea of Coding, use FRONTLY to build Custom Apps ?
Or does it require knowledge of CSS, JavaScript, or any other Programming language etc. to build Custom Apps?
3. Can it be used to build a Custom App for a Home-Service business like a kind of Booking App where Customers can book/schedule services for their Home or Office from the App - for example an IT/Hardware Support service for Client site or a Home-Salon service, etc.
3. a) Does FRONTLY only handle the front-end part of the App or even the Backend of it as well? b) Does it need a Spreadsheet or Datasheet kind of Database at the back-end like Google Sheets, Excel, AiTable, etc. ?
Thanks!
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi there!
1. Yes, you can built custom apps - the templates are just examples that you can install with one-click, but the primary use-case is for custom building apps
2. Yes - Frontly is an entirely no-code platform (no CSS or javascript involved at all)
3. Yes, you can build something like this. These are fairly common / reasonable use cases
4. Frontly uses Google Sheets as a back-end
I highly recommend watching the videos on our YouTube Channel to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/@frontlyapp
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Q: Hello, With the unlimited plan, can I create internal solutions for my partners or other business in need ...
and give them access only to the tool that I've created for them ?
Thank you
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Yes, absolutely. We have many users who are contractors building apps for their clients who only have end-app access.
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Q: Hi I have the following questions.
1. Can it create an app with multiple steps of logic? e.g. to follow a hierarchical flow chart?
2. I did not understand the app limits. For example if I buy tier 2, it is 10 apps per month? 10 apps per year? or 10 apps lifetime? And how are AI credits are counted?
3. If I have 20 AI tokens per month, does that mean I can create 20 apps and only 10 will be published on web?
4. Can I embed the published app in iframe or on custom domain?
Regards
Dr Akshaykumar
Patrick_Frontly
May 14, 2024A: Hi Dr Akshaykumar,
Yes, our 'actions' system allows for a flow-chart style conditional triggering system where a certain path will run only if certain conditions are true.
The number of 'apps' is a total limit for your account. The AI tokens are used during the generation process, and then also can be used separately for running OpenAI requests in these end apps. The lower tier token limits are not suitable for using AI actively in your end apps, but can be used in our AI App generation setup flow.
You can add a custom domain to any app in Frontly. You may be able to embed your app in an Iframe, but the 'login' feature won't work so you'd need to set the permissions to public if it were to be in an iframe.
I hope that helps,
Patrick
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Thank you for your prompt response.
I understood only partly. Didn't get apps and open AI explanations.
Is it possible to take demo?
What's best email to reach you?
Regards
Dr Akshaykumar
Verified purchaser
We don't have the bandwidth to offer personalized demos unfortunately since we have thousands of new users signing up right now through AppSumo, but I highly recommend watching the videos on our YouTube channel for more understanding (https://www.youtube.com/@frontlyapp) as well as joining our Discord community to see what our users are talking about and to chat with the community (https://discord.gg/3ahy9XqJ)
Q: 2 weeks ago, you promised new templates, are they now ready?
Patrick_Frontly
May 14, 2024A: Hey Max,
We've decided to spend more time focusing on slightly more advanced AI app templates, so it's taking longer than usual. We did release a new 'Business Idea Generator' AI app template last week: https://app.frontly.ai/app_templates
We have 2 new AI app templates to be released this upcoming week. Check back to the https://app.frontly.ai/app_templates page by next Friday (March 22) and you should see at least 2 more :)
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OK, thanks, we will check it
Verified purchaser
May I ask what they are? I see in discord and my own particular use case is around an LMS - is this one of the ones you are developing and if not will you consider doing so? For me and others this is a critical template.
Q: Hi, Please find my use case: 1) I have a sheet with 10 rows each with data of 1 user with email if 2) When a ...
user logged in - I should display data of only that user in his session & he should be able to edit only his record.
In short - 1 row as 1 record - Enabling user permission only for that row/record
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi! Yes, absolutely. This is possible using our 'Hidden Filters' system alongside the 'user' variable which can be accessed like {{ user.email }}.
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Q: can we build any custom app?
i.e. if we need something that has a slightly different template than the existent ones? i.e. if I need to make an app for schools to manage their students, can I just drag and drop and create the tabs I need without having to use a specific template from the existent ones? Thanks!
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi Debbie! Yes, absolutely! The templates are simply examples - most users custom build their apps from scratch with their own spreadsheets, page names, etc.
I highly recommend you signup and give it a test to see if it's what you're looking for :)
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Q: Hi, are we able to manually unload Frontly to the Google Play Store and the Apple Store?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi Rick, Frontly unfortunately is not designed for publishing apps on the play stores, just for web browser usage currently. Thanks for your interest.
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Q: Pre-purchase question.
I see in the documentation it says to contact the Frontly team if I need to implement dropdown selects from my google sheet within Frontly. Just want to confirm this is in fact doable.
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hi Lukas,
There are actually a few ways to implement Select dropdowns in Frontly. If you're using it in a filter on your page, it will automatically populate from your sheet. If you set up our 'relational data' system to connect 2 related sheets together, the data will populate automatically as well.
If you need any assistance, please reach out to our support team in the in-app chat!
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Q: Hi, i want to use frontly with openAI gp4 AI.
If i get frontly Tier5 and bring my own OpenAI API key (i have an subscription), do i then can use unlimited GPT-4 without any extra cost from frontly? If not, what extra costs arise?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Hey there,
When you add your own API Key, you will not receive any additional costs from Frontly, since the billing goes through your system.
Right now, users who purchase Tier 5 are limited to 5,000 AI requests per month with their own API key.
The reason for this limit is that AI requests still take up server resources and so we're aiming to continue raising the limits as we have more usage data in the coming months.
If you ever end up getting close to the AI limit, you can reach out to our team and we may be able to raise the limits for your account specifically.
Thanks!
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Q: Can we integrate open AI, and have our own chatbot?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: We have a built-in OpenAi integration for sending requests and receiving and using their responses. I would recommend giving this a try to see if it meets your needs!
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Q: Can you duplicate APPs?
For instance I create an APP I want to use for multiple clients, can I make the "base/golden image" and then duplicate it as a new app connected to different sheets, if not are you planning on adding such a feature?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Yes, you can duplicate apps!
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Q: chatgpt
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Q: Hello So I am still trying to learn all of this stuff so be gentle...
lol
Can I build an internal app that would allow me to connect to a Google Colab and run processes? Can that be done through an automation flow with Make or Boost.Space? (example: Be able to write a prompt and it connects to GC for an AI process and shows the output)
If I build a portal for a client, they have access to it to use as needed. But if they need changes made to it (adding extra fields or renaming fields for example), that is done by the admin (me) correct?
Can I create a portal that is connected to a website (lets say a personal blog site on WordPress) and use the portal/app to create posts/blogs that is then pushed to the site without actually logging in and doing it in WP? And if so, could I have multiple sites connected to one portal?
I may be completely missing the mark with some of these questions, but I dont know what I dont know. lol :)
Thanks in advance!
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Q: Greetings.
Is it possible with FRONTLY to create apps that can be used by people who are not logged into the app?
From reading this Help page it seems the answer is "no":
https://help.frontly.ai/en/articles/7982162-user-roles-groups-permissions
Thanks for any clarification.
Best Wishes.
Patrick_Frontly
May 14, 2024A: Hi there! Yes, you can make pages Public now by turning off the 'require login' setting for your specific page. Thanks for checking!
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Verified purchaser
PS: I just saw answer #2 on this page (from April 2023) that suggests non-logged-in users might be able to use an app:
https://appsumo.com/products/frontly/questions/hi-1-can-i-modify-what-appears-in-the-859380/#859559
"2. We are about to release an update tomorrow to allow an optional setting for public-facing pages that can load Google Sheets without requiring a user to login."
I look forward to further information. Thanks.
Verified purchaser
Great! Thanks for clarifying that.
Q: Great App!
I was a little surprised to find out from support that the previous single code plan I purchased in 2022 is now known as "the freebie plan" so previous purchases don't really give any benefit over freebie users. Perhaps you might consider giving some kind of credit to previous AppSumo purchasers? Thanks very much!
Patrick_Frontly
May 14, 2024A: Hi Nicolai,
I think there may be some misunderstanding. The entire 2022 campaign was a free offer, so there were actually no 'purchases' made at that time.
In the AppSumo dashboard, it's not totally obvious when you go back to review it that it was free, but I can assure you that our first campaign was in fact an appsumo 'freebie'.
This was also for the previous version of our platform. Since the plans don't really line up now that we have a new platform with new features, we're giving users a new 'freebie' plan on the new platform which is more than equivalent of what the free users of 2022 were getting.
That said, if you did actually make a purchase directly through us during that campaign to upgrade and you have a receipt or email confirmation, etc then we are more than happy to ensure you get a plan in the new platform that takes into account your early support and the amount you paid.
Thanks for understanding,
Patrick
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Verified purchaser
Ah, ok! Wow, I had completely forgotten that it was free. So sorry about that. I guess it's true that no good deed goes unpunished :) Thank you for taking the time to explain, and a retroactive thank you for your earlier generosity.
Q: This looks very interesting - thank you for coming to Appsumo.
Can I suggest two more templates that would be very useful for us beginners?
1. Book an appointment
2. LMS with Course sales public area, registration flow, member only area for students to follow a course and course admin area to make edits and see students progress and results.
Even if you do not build these out as templates, (but please do consider doing so) can you say whether Frontly should be able to cover these two use cases?
Patrick_Frontly
May 15, 2024A: Thanks Oliver, we are always looking to create new templates. I'll add these to our list.
We have a 'Calendar' block, which should fairly easily allow you to create appointments.
You can totally build an LMS system too - we have options for limiting user's access based on information stored in their account like a payment status, and we also have a Video block and an Iframe block which can be used to show media content.
If you want to learn more, I'd recommend joining our Discord community. We have 1,000 members and it's very active - users talk about their apps and are always happy to answer questions from other users looking for the best ways to build their ideas!
https://discord.gg/PF7V4sm5
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